Discussão:Self Responsibility – Being Responsible

Hawaiian 21:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)To blame entirely the human race on Earth who was at first “pressed under force by the malevolent ET’s”, then taken over by the power-lustful clergy in conjunction with those in power, is a bit stretching it? True, each individual is responsible for their actions, but considering the entire episode(s) leading to this most uncreational fallacy of religions and gods, we need to approach it from ALL prospective views, including those who created it and those in power who could have intervened, but stood by, which included not just Earth humans, but others who are now “advisors” to lesser developed intelligences.

Observe Contact Note # 213 statement from Billy himself regarding who was responsible for a world-wide persecution of the Jewish population during WWII. All Jews were labeled under this, even though the persecution of Jmmanuel was under direct control of the Romans and pursued by the Jewish leadership. Which is very similar to the current situation here on Earth, the followers of religions are still under the direct influence of those in power and the blame should fall more specifically on these degenerates and to a lesser degree on the brain-washed individuals.

Which brings into prospective another avenue of punishment due to “influence” or “responsibility” in Quetzal’s comments below.

1. Then you should also know that it was in no way the Jewish people who bore the guilt for the fact that Jmmanuel was sentenced to death by the cross. In fact, it was such that the Roman garrison ruled in Jerusalem at that time, and its laws possessed validity. Only the Jewish scribes and the Jewish leaders were actually guilty of the fact that Jmmanuel was sentenced to death; Billy Meier #19 line.

Now, let’s analyze Quetzal’s comments listed below, as it also brings into prospective another view to add support to the above statements regarding responsibility of degenerative activities such as religion and murder.

A drunken state or frame of mind when induced by direct or indirect means have the same result, that it leads to degeneration or death of individuals, thus also relates to involuntary suicidal of the innocent such as in the case of Billy’s brother being runned over and killed by a drunken driver.

Again, one has to evaluate the circumstances leading to such degenerative activities; in the case of religions one should ask the following:

a. Is it not the INTENT of the malevolent ET’s to set themselves up as “gods” and create religions, knowing that it will result in degeneration of Earth humans by brain-washing them or making their minds of “drunken” state to justify their killings and blood thirsty activities? b. Now that these negative ET’s are gone, yet the clergy remains doing their biddings and are not accountable for their actions. c. Thus, you have a two-tier level ( three, if the malovent ET’s are included), so accordingly to your statements, all are equally responsible for their actions? Based on the Plejaren model of law, I find this rather strange indeed? Those in control and that includes ALL parties within the confines of creational evolution, even those in power to intervene, must also be held to certain degrees, responsible. Are the victums of crimes responsible for their healing or recovery and to be blamed 100 percent?

Quetzal: Quetzal: 170. Our laws clearly stipulate that if such an act was committed in a drunken state, then it would equal a serious felony, which would also accordingly have to be punished very harshly.

. 171. Such an act is, in fact, a clearly deliberate act of murder, for if a person gets drunk on alcohol, he very well knows and is aware of the fact that in his drunken state, he loses control over himself, over his mental competence, and over his reactivity, etc.

172. But in the case of drunkenness, the cognition of this knowledge and this responsibility to be borne is deliberately disowned, whereby disasters, accidents, misfortunes, and crimes are casually accepted; therefore, a person in a drunken state is undoubtedly fully responsible for his actions and deeds, and so, he should also accordingly be punished, harshly and impartially, like with any other delinquent and non-drunken and, thus, sober and fully conscious person, just as every crime is included in this